2030 Cloud Efficiency Hardware 
ACM Sigarch
AUGUST 3, 2023
Embodied carbon is due to Scope 3, e.g., manufacturing IT hardware and datacenter construction. Chien’s argument: Embodied carbon numbers are disproportionately large Rebuttal: Large embodied carbon numbers are reported by companies who have set public goals to reach net zero emissions by 2030.
Adrian Cockcroft
NOVEMBER 13, 2023
This is basically the position of the major cloud providers, they will all take care of it for you by 2030 or so. For an example of an unintended consequence, let’s say the result of your optimization project is spare capacity at a cloud provider. But you want to *do something* to help sooner.
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